I see what your saying but at least when there is a disagreement here, no one this forum will demand that your family and lifelong friends stop talking to you, nor will they indicate that unless you change your way of thinking to their way of thinking, god is going to destroy you.
Pete Zahut
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Have we become what we despise so much?
by Tenacious inthe majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.
upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.
again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.
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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?
by Darkknight757 inso i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.
for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.
i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.
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Pete Zahut
I also told her that I will go to all the meetings with her no problem but not field service. She is also ok with this.
I guess for the time being Ill just keep up the act because I wouldnt want to devastate her by suddenly telling her I don't believe in God.(or at least the God of the bible)
Sometimes the most important thing to JW wives is that you're there to complete the picture so that she isn't in the position of being a widow by having an unbelieving mate.
When I stopped going to the meetings, my wife hated sitting there alone, but that was when she really started to pay attention to the things she had been raised with and had taken for granted to be true.
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I've been depressed lately.
by Butyoucanneverleave inmy husband and i went to visit his family for the holidays.
not everyone showed for the visit ,the weather was lousy, and it just generally sucked.
now we're back to the same old routine with work and life and we're both depressed and alone.
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Pete Zahut
It sounds like you had a "perfect storm" of events....a stretch of unstructured free time off, during a blah time of year and spent with people you'd rather not be with. The Holidays are sometimes like that even for people whose families are speaking to them.
Sometimes it's good to get back to our normal routines no matter how hum-drum they can seem. In the meantime, I think it's good to make a point of having specific plans made during the holidays or when you have long stretches of free time and to fill in the void. During the winter (especially) it's good to have something nice to look forward to. Sometimes just getting away to a nearby city or town and spending the night there, eating out or doing something new, is enough to do the trick. It doesn't have to cost a lot of money either....just something to break the routine and fill the down time and move you in the direction of getting out yourself out there meeting new people or having new experiences.
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Inactive brother that on line games with fellow JWs
by joe134cd injust wanting to know if anyone knows of a similar case and what's the deal with it.
i have an inactive jw acquaintance who hasn't been inside a kh for at least a couple of years.
yet the weird thing is there is a net work of jws that he dose on line gaming with.
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Pete Zahut
Younger and more open minded JW's are quicker to skate by the rules on technicalities or loopholes so long as the inactive one plays his cards right and doesn't draw any lines in the sand and forces anyone to "take a stand". I'm sure they rationalize that since the individual isn't physically present, what's the harm? If this was officially brought to anyone's attention, I'm sure it would be stopped. -
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what things can we say
by pepperheart inwhat sort of things could we say to people on the trolleys and going door to door to make the most of the fact that the magazines are going bimonthly from now on .
ie oh will headquaters pay able to give you a bit of money for your fuel costs now ?.
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Pete Zahut
I keep a few photo copies of the old magazine covers and information(shown below), on the book case in my front entry hall. They don't seem to see the humor when they offer their current literature and I show them these old ones and ask "so what happened??" You do see a light bulb go on in their heads however much they try to hide it.
I suppose a person could carry copies of these with them and leave them next to the literature on a trolley or with the persons attending the trolley and say " JW's spent countless hours and years of their lives blanketing the earth with this literature and those who didn't take their magazines were said to be "goats" and it all turned out to be wrong. How about the literature you have here today....will it stand the test of time or are you misleading people and wasting your time too?"
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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?
by Darkknight757 inso i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.
for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.
i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.
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Pete Zahut
Rather than an saying I'm an Atheist (gasp) I call myself an "Enthusiastic Agnostic". I'd love for someone to prove to me without a shadow of a doubt, the existence of God and undeniable proof that a paradise awaits us. I'll be the first one to do whatever he/she wants me to do, once it is clear. So far, nothing along these lines are provable and until they are, I can't in good conscience be expected to go from door to door showing people the same feeble bits of cobbled together reasonings that we currently have. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
If there is a God and there is a paradise in store for us, there is no reason I too shouldn't be a part of it. My wife could see the reasonableness of this and couldn't provide any information for me or herself, that wasn't easily refutable.
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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing
by Crazyguy inon their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
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I'm not mad....could care less if they finally get to have a bit of fun instead of boring, somber, tight laced, buttoned up, stale meetings week after week.Makemeanunbeliever 19 hours ago
Sounds like y'all are mad cause you left the "family"?I do however find it ironic that having grown up as a JW and a former Bethelite, how scripture after scripture was sited to show us why, when it comes to worshiping Jehovah, we weren't allowed to be anything but "serious minded" "not emulating the world" "modest not drawing attention to ourselves" etc. We couldn't even have a non witness song in our weddings or have dancing at our get togethers.
We got scolded by the Circuit Overseer for having a 50's costume party because we were emulating the world by dressing in 50's garb and playing 50's music when we should have been dressed like Witnesses in the 50's and reenacting how they would have gone from door to door (I kid you not).
Now it seems the Bible has been re-written and what was wrong for us to do, is ok...even on the assembly hall platform apparently !
I say go for it...this is just the further proof I need to confirm that this is no longer the religion I was pretty much forced to dedicate my life to and it will be just the kind of thing to wake up those who's eyes are beginning to be opened to how fast JW's are becoming just another fundamentalist mainstream religion.
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Is the Pioneer School being eliminated?
by wannaexit ini heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.. i could see this happening.
it used to be that you went to the the pioneer school once.
then they allowed dubs to go every 5 years.
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Pete Zahut
I heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.
Well this is just further proof that the terrorists are winning !
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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing
by Crazyguy inon their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
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Pete Zahut
The brothers in the band brazenly sing one of the most popular R&B songs of all time, whose lyrics celebrate the lustful feelings of a man or woman under the spell of love ("I Feel Good") and shimmying across the floor to denote anything but dignity and spirituality.
And (gasp)...said "shimmying" was done in britches that were kinda' tight.
What will Tony Morris have to say once he gets wind of this? (oh, and he will ).
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Pete Zahut
I kind of like that photo and it might be nice to go to meeting where things are a bit more "open air" rather than in a stuffy closed up building. This building may be just the right thing for that area and would be easy to repair and maintain. Folks who live there may only need a place to get in out of the direct sun or the occasional rain shower and may be glad they don't have to come up with the money to build an maintain a more formal building. Perhaps they even have a portable generator to run their flat screen (if internet is even available).
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This is all they could afford once their funds were handed over to the folks back at headquarters.
